Friday, August 21, 2020

ICE, ICE, Baby





















This is an example of what I so dislike about journalism today. I care very little about the substance of the story - which is that Muslim detainees at an ICE facility in Miami have been served meals for the general population instead of prepared Halal meals - but it irks me when news outlets print an advocacy group press release without making the least attempt to question the contents or to comment on the group's bias. 

If you’re at all curious about the situation in Miami, and if you read the news in a critical light, the way all news should be read, you might first note that all of this material is coming from an advocacy group. And if experience has taught us anything, it is that advocacy group press releases are always balanced, forthright, unbiased, and if anything understated. Caveat emptor

Then, you might want to hear what ICE has to say about it before you participate in a moral panic. Get a grip on yourself. Prisons and detention centers are not hotels, and prisoners can’t order the meals they want.

Recognize that the COVID-19 situation must have impacted ICE detention centers just as it has everything else, so detention center food service has gone to one-size-fits-all. No more 'plating' or unnecessary handling of food. It is unwarranted to assume this is a deliberate assault on the religious freedom of Muslim detainees, or that they are being fed nothing but pork.  

The bottom line is that Muslim (and vegetarian) detainees of ICE, or indeed of any prison or jail in the world, will have to pick out what they want to eat from that which they are served. If the solution is to give them more veggies, I'm all in favor.


23 comments:

Anonymous said...

TSB: Michelle Obama gave a speech from her home in Martha's Vineyard about fighting fascism. I missed it but did you get a load of her new abode? https://uziiw38pmyg1ai60732c4011-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/dropzone/2020/08/marthaviney-768x326.jpg
I bet the Trumpster wishes he had a house like that! gwb

Anonymous said...

TSB: Gee whiz! SAG-AFTRA members (32,000 + 33,000 family) will no longer have health care insurance unless they make 25,900/year. If a spouse has health care coverage they will not be covered at all. A member with 2 dependent children now has to pay $747/month premium.
Seems I recall a lot of these people were talking this week about how everybody needs to vote JOE! Now even the rich retired ones are screaming bloody murder because everyone is out of work. (residuals don't count) This is just the beginning because starting Sept.1st millions are going to discover their health premiums are going up 25-40%. I just hope "Liawatha" has a plan for that. gwb https://youtu.be/QLx24T_t_0Q

TSB said...

GWB: The Obama's can afford great places to live, especially now that they have a NetFlix development deal. Say, just a thought, but maybe they could employ all those actors who are anxious about keeping their SAG-AFTRA insurance coverage. Maybe use hundreds of them to do a series of Michael Moore-style docu-dramas about how the insurance industry sucks? That sounds like a win-win.

Anonymous said...

TSB: You are way ahead of me on Netflix stuff. Speaking of "acting", I watched the Rational National livestream of the RNC BS. My favorite part was watching Kimberley G. Yell and Scream and wave her arms for 15 minutes on how she and her parents came here with nothing and created their own American Dream thanks to Donald Trump and DT Junior!! Can't believe many sat through the rest of it. gwb

It's a good thing that guy had a camera on those two cops fired 7 shots into that black good sammaritan's back in Wisconsin. That beats the George Floyd case by a mile. Probably not much left of that town now.

TSB said...

On that shooting in Wisconsin, there was more than one camera on, and some of them captured the struggle in which police - trying to serve an arrest warrant for domestic violence - lost control of the guy, who then went into his vehicle. You aren't allowed to escape arrest, and the last time that same guy went into his vehicle in another incident he'd pulled a gun.

We have a lot of people today who seem to think life is a Grand Theft Auto game, where when the police stop you, you have the option of fighting them or taking their guns away and shooting them.

But reality intrudes. Seven times, in this case.

Anonymous said...

TSB: Sounds like Kenosha got no help from the National Guard last night as the "not very peaceful" protesters shot up and burned the place down. Where is Sen. Tammy Baldwin of Vote Joe fame? Sounds like a mini-Oregon situation. Were they arresting him or just beating him up? I think Joe,Hillary and Camela are doomed. gwb

Anonymous said...

TSB: Great reporting by the Rational National on Kenosha!
Kenosha Police Caught On-Cam Working With White Militia & Teen Shooter AtProtest...https://youtu.be/FymA6b03kZk
So, it looks like the cops are now the KKK working with the white supremacists. gwb

Anonymous said...

TSB: It is interesting to see how the MSM portrayed Kenosha. Tucker Carlson defended the shooter. (just defending people and property) Stephen Colbert told it straight: (Trump only cares about Trump winning.) https://youtu.be/kgVlW_7vcf8 ... TYT (Cenk) was furious at Trump,but left out the part where the police said: "we will push them up your way so you can take care of them" before the shooting. The Rational National immediately took a couple hours to put the story together and got it out there. Joe Biden condemned the violence vs peaceful demonstrating but he was just 90 days late. Nobody is allowed to tell the truth in this country but last night Colbert made the best attempt possible.
I was wondering how long this "solidarity" with BLM would last with the NBA and MLB? They will meet this morning to decide and I suspect it will be 1 day. I was following that hurricane last night til 1 am landfall. That was pretty scary...like Kimberley G! gwb

TSB said...

GWB: "Caught on camera working with" = the cops gave out water bottles to people guarding a car lot a couple hours before the shooting started. A very thin reed.

More to the point, cameras captured that kid shooting people who were in the process of battering him over the head with a wooden skateboard (the rioter's weapon of choice now that bike locks seem to have fallen out of style) and pointing and firing a pistol at him. Proving murder charges will be a very heavy lift.

Personally, I see it as just what will happen when government defaults on its part of the metaphorical Social Contract. If rioters can have all the fun and destruction they want while the police and major/governor stand back, then expect the big fun to start catching on with others.

That kid showed what an untrained and inexperienced 17 year-old can do with a $400 rifle and no other gear, preparation, or planning. Just ten experienced people with some organization could have killed every looter there that night in a few minutes, and that might be where this cycle of violence goes next.

Anonymous said...

TSB,
Yeah, when the real people show up look out. These are a bunch of spoiled rich white kids playing revolutionary, play time is almost over. Cameras everywhere have really changed things at least for now. Will this kid be a "hero" or will he be "crucified", we'll see. The Left has been desperately trying to get "martyrs", now they have some but it may not work like they think.
Sennacherib

TSB said...

Sennacherib: I agree. The martyrology will be a hard sell in this case, with all three of the guys the kid shot having criminal convictions, for child sexual assault in the instance of the one rioter who was killed.

W.Dan Davenport MD said...

TSB: Turley: Do The New George Floyd Documents Constitute A Defense For Accused Former Officers? Turley makes a good case that the evidence both helps the prosecution and the defense but Keith Ellison's words and actions in charging them all immediately and saying they definitely would be punished were clearly to absolve himself of responsibility and appease BLM.
There is no way a jury is going to say this guy is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt which is going to light up the rioting all over again. Trump will get a big boost out of these two empty weeks and there are going to be lots of problems counting those ballots. gwb
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/turley-do-new-george-floyd-documents-constitute-defense-accused-former-officers

TSB said...

GWB: It's a big problem when the state AG position is filled by an extreme partisan - the former Deputy Director of the Democratic National Committee - instead of someone more dispassionate.

The day after Floyd's death, the local city prosecutor was asked why he hadn't already charged the cops with murder, and he gave an excellent statement to the effect that there was evidence that argued in their defense, and since ALL the evidence, both pro and con, will come out at the trial, you might want to consider it all now before you decide what to charge them with. But, Ellison took the case away from him and immediately over-charged all four cops.

Now we'll see a trial and probably multiple appeals that won't make the mob happy. Worse case, they're acquitted by an out-of-town jury, riots resume, and then the Feds try them again on civil rights charges, just like what happened with the Rodney King cops.

Anonymous said...

TSB: Aug 27 (Reuters) - Kyle Rittenhouse, a teenager arrested and charged in the shootings in Wisconsin that led to the death of two people and injury of another, faces six criminal counts, according to a court document released on Thursday. (Did the dead guy try to attack him or was he just trying to grab his gun?) Were Kenosha PD trying to cover up the shooting?
What about the other guys he came to Kenosha with? Do they have those names?


I distinctly heard the cop yell "drop the knife" before he got to the car door. Did the guy have a do not contact order with the mother? Did he have drugs in his system? This all seems to be a well coordinated democrat operation to get rid of Trump. = Landslide for Trump.gwb

Anonymous said...

TSB: Now we are starting to get some answers: Felony Warrant Against Jacob Blake Has Been Vacated, Handcuffs Removed At Hospital Bed ...Hours prior on Friday Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul refused to confirm whether Kenosha police knew beforehand that Blake had a knife in his vehicle before they opened fire when he reached into the driver's side.

"We're not commenting on that detail at this point in the investigation. Mr. Blake stated to investigators that he had a knife in his possession and there was one that was found on the driver's side floorboard," Kaul told ABC News on "Good Morning America."
There has been a whole lot of tap dancing on Kenosha. We still don't know whether he had a knife but I'm pretty sure the Sherriff is a racist. Could be they are worried about a lawsuit.
gwb Hours prior on Friday Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul refused to confirm whether Kenosha police knew beforehand that Blake had a knife in his vehicle before they opened fire when he reached into the driver's side.

"We're not commenting on that detail at this point in the investigation. Mr. Blake stated to investigators that he had a knife in his possession and there was one that was found on the driver's side floorboard," Kaul told ABC News on "Good Morning America."

TSB said...

GWB: About that knife, video of Blake walking. away from the first police he encountered - the ones who unsuccessfully tased him - clearly shows him with a curved blade Karambit style knife in his left hand. All the police were yelling for him to drop the knife, which he did after he was shot.

Anonymous said...

TSB:TSB: Colbert had Chris Christie on for 15 minutes last nite and spent most of it in despair over Christie's decision to try to help Trump get elected. Christie thinks Biden is dangerous because he's going to raise taxes by Trillions and give in to the Green New Dealers who want to dictate every daily decision you make. Poll numbers post DNC are out showing that Biden lost half his lead in 5 swing states during DNC week in which the rioting and loss of life (37) was never mentioned. All the Dem BLM leaders suddenly noticed people don't like rioting and flipped this week from "We must support the rights!" to "This has to stop!" Even Joe read a statement from his kitchen! So, it turns out the conventions were big on policy after all! A lot of voters don't like mayhem, looting and burning as promoted by Dems. Game over! gwb

TSB said...

That's the take-away from 2020: people do *NOT* like mayhem. And not just voters. Neither do business owners, investors, insurers, or customers.

Biden must be getting that message from polling and focus groups, but he's probably unable to change course now.

Anonymous said...

Correct the voters do not like what's happening. The " Antifa" crowd killed (publicly) a guy last night in Portland, they also (very publicly) bragged about it. That's probably game over for their movement and the Democrats. At the least it will profoundly affect what happens to the Kenosha Kid.
Sennacherib

TSB said...

The counter-protestors in Portland are just the start. When people see government default on its responsibility to keep order, some will decide they might as well be their own police. There are towns in rural Mexico where that's the case now. It will be odd to see it happen in the USA, although not unprecedented. There is a rich tradition of vigillantism in places like Oregon and San Francisco, if you look back to the late 19th Century.

Anonymous said...

TSB,
I can tell you a lot of stories about Mexico. I had guys (10-14 of them) from the same family work for me for over 20yrs. They all came from a small town in Central Mexico and yes you are quite correct again.
As they would say "Nosotros votandos con los pistolas!".
Sennacherib

Anonymous said...

TSB: Maybe this is the real reason for the lack Lust er Biden campaign strategy?
Secret Service Admits To Destroying Records In Alleged Biden Breast-Grabbing Incident There are too many to count! lol When you have to cancel the Secret Service Christmas Party to protect the wives and daughters from Joe that's kind of serious. gwb https://www.zerohedge.com/political/secret-service-admits-destroying-records-alleged-biden-breast-grabbing-incident

TSB said...

GWB: I could believe the reports about Biden. Such behavior has been rumored about for many years. But, the smoking gun here - the FOIA response - doesn't confirm anything. Records are routinely destroyed IAW federal records management policies, so long as they are 'temporary' and/or involve personal matters. A compliant by an agent, or a disciplinary record, would not be retained forever.

Judicial Watch is stealing a base here. That the USSS says it destroyed a record does not prove an allegation is true or that it is being covered up.

That said, Groupin' Joe? I could believe it.